If you’re as old as Near Futurist Guy Clapperton you’ll remember dial-up networks while everything in the office was connected by cable; now we have wireless networks almost ubiquitously, having seen copper, ISDN and now fibre underpinnings. But wait for it – there’s a new standard in the offing. In this episode we offer the first part of a chat with Dr. Masahisa Kawashima, technology durector of IOWN Global Forum – a cross-industry group of 170 organisations working on photonic networking. Listen to find out why this is going to be important.